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  • 1.  SIP J179

    Posted 01-20-2022 06:54 AM
    Good Morning All,

    I have just deployed several J179 and J189 phones. I have them all up and they seem to working as all features are working seamlessly. My question is, how long is supposed to take from the time you make button changes either by Manage endpoints or CM for the changes to show on the phone? Unlike H.323 where it instant, It sometimes take 4 or 5 minutes before the changes are visual.

    Thanks,

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    Todd Stone
    Telecommunications Adminstrator
    St Johns County Schools
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  • 2.  RE: SIP J179

    Posted 01-20-2022 07:46 AM
    The way that button data makes it to the phones on J-series devices is by using PPM.  PPM is a "magical" setup where that extra avaya-specific data (like button data, contacts, etc) is sent via HTTPS calls instead of SIP calls.   Under the hood, the phone polls Session Manager every so often to see if it needs to have this data refreshed -- and updates it at that time.  

    H.323 phones, because they emulate the old DCP protocol get out of band data within the signaling socket already open so they get this data usually between a few seconds and a few minutes (depending on how busy the system is, since only one phone can be updated at a time).

    If you want the phone to update faster, you can make the change using System Manager (not ASA), then go to the User Registrations section of the Session Manager element.  Find the registration of the phone you want to update in the list, and check the box.  Then go to the "Reload" then "Reload Complete" to force the phone to poll for this updated info immediately.  The phone should show the updated button data in about 10 seconds from that reload request.

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    Nick Kwiatkowski
    Director of Design and Engineering
    Michigan State University
    East Lansing MI
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  • 3.  RE: SIP J179

    Posted 02-01-2022 10:23 AM
    Nick,

    When making an outbound call on the J series SIP phones, I noticed that when making an outbound call the digits displayed are in an Ip address octet. Is this normal?

    Example:  Dialing 9,314-9514 it shows as 93.14.95.14

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    Todd Stone
    Telecommunications Adminstrator
    St Johns County Schools
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