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All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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​There are paging speaker that register as SIP endpoints. Do a web search for SIP speakers. The ones I've seen are PoE so (if you have PoE switches) you don't need any power supplies, amps, paging adapters, or gateways.

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James Rawland
Telecom Engineer
PeaceHealth
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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Great, thanks, will explore that.  I forgot to mention that we do have a partial SIP environment, currently serving any remote worker users, and some SIP endpoints already for on-prem use.  Appreciate your response.

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 02:08 PM
From: James Rawland
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

​There are paging speaker that register as SIP endpoints. Do a web search for SIP speakers. The ones I've seen are PoE so (if you have PoE switches) you don't need any power supplies, amps, paging adapters, or gateways.

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James Rawland
Telecom Engineer
PeaceHealth

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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Cathy,
One thing to consider is not all SIP Paging interfaces support High Definition audio codecs, which may improve overhead paging quality.  This is one of my wish list items for when I tackle this problem, hopefully next year.

Tom

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Tom Lynn
Principal Engineer
Nordstrom, Inc.
Seattle
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 02:18 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

Great, thanks, will explore that.  I forgot to mention that we do have a partial SIP environment, currently serving any remote worker users, and some SIP endpoints already for on-prem use.  Appreciate your response.

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 02:08 PM
From: James Rawland
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

​There are paging speaker that register as SIP endpoints. Do a web search for SIP speakers. The ones I've seen are PoE so (if you have PoE switches) you don't need any power supplies, amps, paging adapters, or gateways.

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James Rawland
Telecom Engineer
PeaceHealth

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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​Thanks Tom, that is great information, will keep that in mind.  Stay well!

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-05-2020 12:20 PM
From: Tom Lynn
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

Cathy,
One thing to consider is not all SIP Paging interfaces support High Definition audio codecs, which may improve overhead paging quality.  This is one of my wish list items for when I tackle this problem, hopefully next year.

Tom

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Tom Lynn
Principal Engineer
Nordstrom, Inc.
Seattle

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 02:18 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

Great, thanks, will explore that.  I forgot to mention that we do have a partial SIP environment, currently serving any remote worker users, and some SIP endpoints already for on-prem use.  Appreciate your response.

------------------------------
Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 02:08 PM
From: James Rawland
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

​There are paging speaker that register as SIP endpoints. Do a web search for SIP speakers. The ones I've seen are PoE so (if you have PoE switches) you don't need any power supplies, amps, paging adapters, or gateways.

------------------------------
James Rawland
Telecom Engineer
PeaceHealth

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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I can recommend Algo equipment.  There's a number of ways to engineer an Algo system.  We've used the 8301, which registers as a SIP station and provides 600 Ohm output for a paging amp.   That output could also be used with self-amplified speakers.   That's old-tech though.  If you're installing all new, using IP-enabled, POE-powered speakers might be the way to go.  Those generally work by having one device that registers as a SIP station and then uses multicast to send audio to all the speakers.

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Sam Osheroff
UC Engineer
University of Washington
Seattle WA
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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​Thank you Sam, greatly appreciate the info.  Will check this out...

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-07-2020 10:56 AM
From: Sam Osheroff
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

I can recommend Algo equipment.  There's a number of ways to engineer an Algo system.  We've used the 8301, which registers as a SIP station and provides 600 Ohm output for a paging amp.   That output could also be used with self-amplified speakers.   That's old-tech though.  If you're installing all new, using IP-enabled, POE-powered speakers might be the way to go.  Those generally work by having one device that registers as a SIP station and then uses multicast to send audio to all the speakers.

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Sam Osheroff
UC Engineer
University of Washington
Seattle WA

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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I like the Algo 8301, too.  I've got one at my desk, which is currently inaccessible.  :-(


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Tom Lynn
Forum Moderator
Principal Engineer
Nordstrom, Inc.
Seattle
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-12-2020 12:03 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

​Thank you Sam, greatly appreciate the info.  Will check this out...

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA

Original Message:
Sent: 05-07-2020 10:56 AM
From: Sam Osheroff
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

I can recommend Algo equipment.  There's a number of ways to engineer an Algo system.  We've used the 8301, which registers as a SIP station and provides 600 Ohm output for a paging amp.   That output could also be used with self-amplified speakers.   That's old-tech though.  If you're installing all new, using IP-enabled, POE-powered speakers might be the way to go.  Those generally work by having one device that registers as a SIP station and then uses multicast to send audio to all the speakers.

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Sam Osheroff
UC Engineer
University of Washington
Seattle WA

Original Message:
Sent: 04-28-2020 01:56 PM
From: Cathy Fransson
Subject: Overhead paging in office w no Media Gateway

All, we have a remote office where we do not have any telephone network equipment on site (no Media Gateway); the users get their phone service over our WAN, and the only telephone equipment we have on site are their 9611 desk phones (h.323).  We are currently looking for options of overhead paging for this office, as they now are large enough that they feel the need.  Anyone have any suggestions?
We are currently in the Avaya 7.0 environment, but are moving to the R8.x environment shortly (in the middle of the upgrade project as this is being typed).
We have a SIP circuit installed at our primary server location (not in production yet, but for testing, can be brought into prod if needed), and a good WiFi network on site in the office in question
Any suggestions are welcome, we want to explore what's out there.

Thank you kindly,
Cathy

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Cathy Fransson
Telecommunications Engineer
Sheppard Mullin Richter Hampton
Los Angeles CA
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